[Jan/2023 | RE] Recession Proof Real Estate Investing

  • Long-term Debt Cycle (Dalio style) : 50-100 years. 
    • Deleveraging event.
  • RE cycle – usually 18 year, last time 2008. Marked by developer buy land.
  • Non-RE signals
    • Yield curve
      • Longer term higher interest rate in normal condition.
      • Yield is determined by supply/demand, when people worry about economy, change shorter term risky asset into longer term one, this is one reason why inverted yield curve is signal for bad econ ahead.
    • Unemployment “fully employed” when 4%
    • Buffet Indicator: Market Cap of stock mark vs. GDP – i.e. Market Cap should increase linearly with GDP. 
      • US GBP (some think) should grow 3-4% annually.
  • RE signals:
    • Housing supply : Inventory / DOM signal
    • Housing starts / building permits signal
    • Buyer vs. Seller Marketing
      • 1. Avg time on market
      • 2. Number of house listed for sale
      • 6-months to sell is considered equilibrium
    • Cap rate with cycle – Bullish market lowers cap rate
    • Profit margin for flipping/wholesaler : higher when mkt expanding.
    • Risk for lenders
      • Market risk: i.e. type of loan for flipper – goes with cycle
      • Deal risk : 1. LTV; 2. Experience of investor; 3. Total asset of investor.
    • Cost of labor & material: higher when mkt expanding. 
    • Avg Property Size: when mkt expanding, usually avg property size bought is bigger. 
  • Wholesaler end buyer is likely flipper, 所以wholesaler与flipper一荣俱荣. 当然recession是可以卖给landlord
  • Note Investing: buy non-performing notes at deep discount to either negotiate for repayment or foreclose it.
    • Judicial Foreclosure: takes about 1 year to foreclose because of slow legal process.
    • IL is judicial foreclosure state, AR is non-judicial foreclosure state.
  • Commercial properties:
    • Traditional vs. Recession-proof: for example: self-storage unit is recession-proof.
  • Peak Phase
    • Observations:
      • Banks for offering more risky loans to homeowners (sold to secondary market to Wall Street), but have lower risk appetite of loans to investors (in-house)
      • A lot of new investors, and subsequently gurus.
    • Tactics 
      • If flip, good school district is important – because it has a healthy demand that will persist
      • Be conservative when buying, assume 10% lower rent, 10% more vacancy.
  • Recession phase
    • Wholesale to landlords
    • Creative financing is important: seller-financing / lease-option / subject-to / wrap.
    • Build relationship with small banks 
      • They’re likely not lending at the time, but they will lending on next expansionary phase. 
      • Also can tap into their REO/foreclosure pipeline
  • Recovery phase
  • Expansion phase
    • Observation: Off-market deal start to be noticed (because MLS is start to drain).

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